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  "title": "ChoiceMail, the ultimate anti-spam weapon?",
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  "html": "<p>I just read about <a href=\"http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2002/07/30/choicem.DTL\">ChoiceMail</a>, a whitelist-based email service that \"turns your inbox into the equivalent of your front door\" where people have to knock and identify themselves as human via a quick web form (hello, <a href=\"http://www.cluetrain.com\">Cluetrain</a>) before their message is allowed in.  This is exactly the idea I've been <a href=\"http://www.decafbad.com/news_archives/000192.phtml\">tossing around in my head</a> and <a href=\"http://impressive.net/people/gerald/2000/12/spam-filtering.html\">reading about</a> for some time now.</p>\n<p>I would pay for this service in an instant, but unfortunately it apparently <a href=\"http://www.digiportal.com/product4.html\">requires Windows</a>.  So, I just got <a href=\"http://www.spamassassin.org\">SpamAssassin</a> and <a href=\"http://razor.sourceforge.net\">Razor</a> working on home IMAP server, so I think I might just poke at finally implementing a service like <span style=\"background : [#FFFFCE](/tag/FFFFCE);\"><a href=\"http://www.decafbad.com/twiki/bin/edit/Main/ChoiceMail?topicparent=Main.FilterData\"><b>?</b></a><font color=\"#0000FF\">ChoiceMail</font></span> on my own.  Hell, maybe I'll even have it send me Jabber messages for permission confirmation and accept messages for whitelist additions, but keeping everything in the context of email seems better.</p>\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n<p>shortname=ooobch</p>\n<div id=\"comments\" class=\"comments archived-comments\"><h3>Archived Comments</h3>\n<ul class=\"comments\">\n<li class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-221089804\">\n<div class=\"meta\">\n<div class=\"author\">\n<a class=\"avatar image\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http://www.theobvious.com/\"><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=3f32acd67ccf36f18a8b2ac459d89d35&amp;size=32&amp;default=http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1320279820/images/noavatar32.png\" width=\"\" height=\"\"></a>\n<a class=\"avatar name\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http://www.theobvious.com/\">michael sippey</a>\n</div>\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#comment-221089804\" class=\"permalink\"><time datetime=\"2002-08-18T05:29:46\">2002-08-18T05:29:46</time></a></p>\n</div>\n\n\n<div class=\"content\">i messed with choicemail for about 20 minutes, after reading walt mossberg's glowing review.  i found it incredibly difficult to use, completely unintuitive and overly complicated.  requiring someone to ask permission to email you may work if you're walt mossberg; but not for your average email user.\nwhy not just whitelist and filter un-whitelisted folks into a holding pen for further review?</div>\n\n\n</li>\n<li class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-221089807\">\n<div class=\"meta\">\n<div class=\"author\">\n<a class=\"avatar image\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http://www.digiportal.com\"><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=4ea1c317b0424a3206a45f6e0052093b&amp;size=32&amp;default=http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1320279820/images/noavatar32.png\" width=\"\" height=\"\"></a>\n<a class=\"avatar name\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http://www.digiportal.com\">David Jameson</a>\n</div>\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#comment-221089807\" class=\"permalink\"><time datetime=\"2002-09-14T12:58:57\">2002-09-14T12:58:57</time></a></p>\n</div>\n\n\n<div class=\"content\">There's no question that the first version of ChoiceMail had problems - however, we're up to 1.3 now and it's come a long way. \nAs for just filtering un-whitelist [sic] folks, clearly one can do that with almost any email program that supports rules. However, you still have to review them all and THAT is the big time-waster. The ChoiceMail model saves YOU time by making the other guy have to do more work (once).\nBy the way, most of my team has Linux as well and we do have a Linux version of ChoiceMail working pretty well - we just haven't figured out how to market it yet! (See my letter to the editor in the April 2002 Linux Magazine)</div>\n\n\n</li>\n<li class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-221089810\">\n<div class=\"meta\">\n<div class=\"author\">\n<a class=\"avatar image\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"\"><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=b11ddb0faecc0d73ccb46b31c04df34c&amp;size=32&amp;default=http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1320279820/images/noavatar32.png\" width=\"\" height=\"\"></a>\n<a class=\"avatar name\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"\">Chris Bolt</a>\n</div>\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#comment-221089810\" class=\"permalink\"><time datetime=\"2002-10-30T21:24:47\">2002-10-30T21:24:47</time></a></p>\n</div>\n\n\n<div class=\"content\">http://www.tmda.net/\nIt's like ChoiceMail, except you just reply to a message to confirm it.</div>\n\n\n</li>\n</ul>\n\n\n</div>\n\n\n",
  "body": "<p>I just read about <a href=\"http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2002/07/30/choicem.DTL\">ChoiceMail</a>, a whitelist-based email service that \"turns your inbox into the equivalent of your front door\" where people have to knock and identify themselves as human via a quick web form (hello, <a href=\"http://www.cluetrain.com\">Cluetrain</a>) before their message is allowed in.  This is exactly the idea I've been <a href=\"http://www.decafbad.com/news_archives/000192.phtml\">tossing around in my head</a> and <a href=\"http://impressive.net/people/gerald/2000/12/spam-filtering.html\">reading about</a> for some time now.</p>\r\n<p>I would pay for this service in an instant, but unfortunately it apparently <a href=\"http://www.digiportal.com/product4.html\">requires Windows</a>.  So, I just got <a href=\"http://www.spamassassin.org\">SpamAssassin</a> and <a href=\"http://razor.sourceforge.net\">Razor</a> working on home IMAP server, so I think I might just poke at finally implementing a service like <span style='background : #FFFFCE;'><a href=\"http://www.decafbad.com/twiki/bin/edit/Main/ChoiceMail?topicparent=Main.FilterData\"><b>?</b></a><font color=\"#0000FF\">ChoiceMail</font></span> on my own.  Hell, maybe I'll even have it send me Jabber messages for permission confirmation and accept messages for whitelist additions, but keeping everything in the context of email seems better.</p>\r\n<!--more-->\r\nshortname=ooobch\r\n\r\n<div id=\"comments\" class=\"comments archived-comments\">\r\n            <h3>Archived Comments</h3>\r\n            \r\n        <ul class=\"comments\">\r\n            \r\n        <li class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-221089804\">\r\n            <div class=\"meta\">\r\n                <div class=\"author\">\r\n                    <a class=\"avatar image\" rel=\"nofollow\" \r\n                       href=\"http://www.theobvious.com/\"><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=3f32acd67ccf36f18a8b2ac459d89d35&amp;size=32&amp;default=http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1320279820/images/noavatar32.png\"/></a>\r\n                    <a class=\"avatar name\" rel=\"nofollow\" \r\n                       href=\"http://www.theobvious.com/\">michael sippey</a>\r\n                </div>\r\n                <a href=\"#comment-221089804\" class=\"permalink\"><time datetime=\"2002-08-18T05:29:46\">2002-08-18T05:29:46</time></a>\r\n            </div>\r\n            <div class=\"content\">i messed with choicemail for about 20 minutes, after reading walt mossberg's glowing review.  i found it incredibly difficult to use, completely unintuitive and overly complicated.  requiring someone to ask permission to email you may work if you're walt mossberg; but not for your average email user.\r\n\r\nwhy not just whitelist and filter un-whitelisted folks into a holding pen for further review?</div>\r\n            \r\n        </li>\r\n    \r\n        <li class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-221089807\">\r\n            <div class=\"meta\">\r\n                <div class=\"author\">\r\n                    <a class=\"avatar image\" rel=\"nofollow\" \r\n                       href=\"http://www.digiportal.com\"><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=4ea1c317b0424a3206a45f6e0052093b&amp;size=32&amp;default=http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1320279820/images/noavatar32.png\"/></a>\r\n                    <a class=\"avatar name\" rel=\"nofollow\" \r\n                       href=\"http://www.digiportal.com\">David Jameson</a>\r\n                </div>\r\n                <a href=\"#comment-221089807\" class=\"permalink\"><time datetime=\"2002-09-14T12:58:57\">2002-09-14T12:58:57</time></a>\r\n            </div>\r\n            <div class=\"content\">There's no question that the first version of ChoiceMail had problems - however, we're up to 1.3 now and it's come a long way. \r\nAs for just filtering un-whitelist [sic] folks, clearly one can do that with almost any email program that supports rules. However, you still have to review them all and THAT is the big time-waster. The ChoiceMail model saves YOU time by making the other guy have to do more work (once).\r\n\r\nBy the way, most of my team has Linux as well and we do have a Linux version of ChoiceMail working pretty well - we just haven't figured out how to market it yet! (See my letter to the editor in the April 2002 Linux Magazine)</div>\r\n            \r\n        </li>\r\n    \r\n        <li class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-221089810\">\r\n            <div class=\"meta\">\r\n                <div class=\"author\">\r\n                    <a class=\"avatar image\" rel=\"nofollow\" \r\n                       href=\"\"><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=b11ddb0faecc0d73ccb46b31c04df34c&amp;size=32&amp;default=http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1320279820/images/noavatar32.png\"/></a>\r\n                    <a class=\"avatar name\" rel=\"nofollow\" \r\n                       href=\"\">Chris Bolt</a>\r\n                </div>\r\n                <a href=\"#comment-221089810\" class=\"permalink\"><time datetime=\"2002-10-30T21:24:47\">2002-10-30T21:24:47</time></a>\r\n            </div>\r\n            <div class=\"content\">http://www.tmda.net/\r\n\r\nIt's like ChoiceMail, except you just reply to a message to confirm it.</div>\r\n            \r\n        </li>\r\n    \r\n        </ul>\r\n    \r\n        </div>\r\n    ",
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